In this video we upgrade a 2009-12 Mac Pro with RX 580 graphics.
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What you'll need is two mini 6 pin to 6 pin adapters and a dual 6-pin to 8-pin adapter.
If you'd like to use your Mac compatible graphics card alongside your RX 580 for boot loader support, you can always use power from a SATA port from the hard drive bays convert that into a 6 pin with a SATA to 6 pin adapter.
See the full graphics card review for more information: https://youtu.be/RGCceOhv3f4
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Found my way to your video and needing to make this change. I'm running a mid-2010 currently with a Radeon HD5770. Even with 24 gb RAM my Adobe software (especially LR) is dogging badly.
I'm currently on El Capitan (10.11.6) and when checked it shows no upgrades are available. I did download Mojave and it advises that I need to install High Sierra 10.13.6 or greater. So...back to the App store...and...no upgrades are listed...in fact, a search for High Sierra yields no results.
Am I simply SOL on an update? I suppose it could make a nice $4,000 planter.
Regards from Colorado...
Have you heard of the hardware acceleration hack for your 580? https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/activate-amd-hardware-acceleration.2180095/ I am trying to figure out how to disable SIP when I can't get into recovery mode since it isn't flashed. My setup is Mac pro 5,1 Sapphite 580, Mojave. Suggestions?
Hey I'm having trouble. Building my PC ATM I bought a ryzen 2600 and it doesn't have integrated graphics so I can't get a display out put on my monitor I have the graphics card I'm just confused on how to install it to get a display output
Hello, Vtudio! Thanks for all your videos...! It helped me a lot...!
I've done now the installation of the RX 580 (Pulse/Sapphire - 8GB) but after times the screen loses signal and recovers. Any idea of what it could be? I've bought mine yesterday but i need to know if it's a problem of the card, cable or Mac Pro 5.1...!
Hey mate, if I was you I'd first investigate the cable and monitor, check if it's fully plugged in, maybe even switch it over to another port. If it still does it, I'd then investigate the card, if you're able to on another computer. If not then go about getting a replacement, as this shouldn't happen.
Hey mate, the drivers are built into MacOS since High Sierra. You lose half of the slot next to the RX580 slot, you can still fit in slim peripherals like an SSD or a USB hub, but you won't be able to fit in another GPU. You can fit the RX580 in the 2nd slot and use the 1st slot for a smaller GPU, I've got a clip of this in the full upgrade guide here: https://youtu.be/RGCceOhv3f4?t=966
ahh ok fair enough.
EDIT: Well never mind. Turns out the issue was the cable between my monitor and computer. Swapped the DVI for an HDMI I borrowed and it works.
Thanks for the video though. Incredibly helpful in even getting this install done.
I've been looking for this too, but everything I find on the net says no, and I have tried several fan control apps. Only thing I saw for this is something about extracting the bios code, changing the fan curve in an editor app, and reflashing the vid card. I'm too scared of messing up my cards to try that though as I have never flashed one before.
Hi, Thanks for the awesome tutorial. My RX580 install went flawless with Sierra to Mojave. My 2010 5.1 mac pro is zippy now. Getting benchmark scores around 26,000. Final Cut ProX works great with 4K etc... Question: any idea how I can activate free sync or make sure that my FPS settings are set to high/unlimited? I wish there was a way to make adjustments to the card. There is no AMD driver interface for the card apparently.
I didn't see anything about installing drivers for the new card. Is that just a given? I am currently running an Nvidia Quadro 4000 that is no longer supported and I will be replacing it with this RX 580, most likely..
Does this add a LOT more heat to the internal mac? I have the same mac, all 4 HD bays are full and have an Avid Card and a Black magic card, and it does get pretty hot during a 8-12 day use, but I do need a more powerful card like this one
Thanks, do you know which one of these would work on a 2012 Mac Pro 12 core running Sierra 10.12.6:
Hey mate, when I did my research for my upgrade I saw that Sapphire had the best rep for being quiet, but the reviews for this Gigabyte edition on the site give it 5 stars, so it sounds good. Regarding price is about $100 more than the Sapphire card being sold at Amazon, but the good thing about getting the Gigabyte OWC model is that they provide a 3 year warranty and a 30 day returns policy, so if it does turn out to be noisy, then you should be able to return it.
Hey mate, it's actually cooler as it runs on a more efficient node (14nm vs 40nm), so if you're doing the same work on both cards, the RX 580 would be able to handle it using a lot less power, that added to the beefy heat sink gets you a much lower idle operating temperature (27c vs 47c). Where it would run hot is if you pushed it harder than you normally would, for example if you started mining on the card or playing games at a high resolution.
 Idle temperatures of RX 580 - 27c - https://www.legitreviews.com/sapphire-nitro-radeon-rx-580-limited-edition-video-card-review_193736/12
 Idle temperatures of HD 5770 - 47c - https://www.techspot.com/review/209-ati-radeon-hd-5770/page11.html
Hey mate, I've got a guide on upgrading to High Sierra here, just watched it and it looks like you need to use a USB installer disk, which requires loading the boot manager. Does your Nvidia card allow you to launch the boot manager (holding down alt on startup)? If not, you'll need to use the original GPU for the upgrade.
Hey mate, to be honest this one's pretty easy to pull off as long as you get all the right connectors, it's not like the CPU upgrade that requires a science coat. On the RX 580, there's no mini display port, but you can always use an adapter if you need that interface.
Hey, i got one of these and it came with a single mini-6 pin connector to an 8 pin connector. Everything I've seen has utilized both mini six pin connectors into one 8 pin connector. Should I order one of those Dual mini 6 pin to 8 pin connectors? It works fine, but I'm wondering if its not fully powered or something.
Each mini-6 pin port should provide 75W of power, however an 8 pin port expects up to 150W of power, so to be safe it's best to use two mini-6 pins to provide the 150W an 8 pin expects. On the flip side, I've read on a few forums that these Mac Pro's give more than the 75W of power for their mini-6 pin ports, so it should run fine converting it directly to an 8 pin, but of course I have also read on a few forums that if you do this you put your motherboard at risk.
Thanks a million. We have the exact same rig, and the exact same old vidCard; so your directions are just what I needed, particularly as applies to that damned cabling silliness. I am on it like a hornet getting the proper double mini 6 pins to 8 pin stuff. Much Mahalo friend :)
Your videos have been incredibly helpful, thank you! I am having one problem. I can't get the mac to boot into windows with the RX580 installed. I changed the startup disk in Mojave, reboot and nothing, just a black screen. I replace it with the 5870 and I'm back in business. Any ideas?
@Vtudio, I got it! Reinstalled Win10 fixed the graphics issue. Fun fact, if you disable SIP and install BootChamp, you can easily dual boot between windows and MacOS! If you'd like the how-to, let me know.
The nice thing about BootChamp is that it only affects one restart. So, once you restart out of windows, it automagically boots back into macOS!
Hey mate, I only had up to High Sierra, if you don't need Mojave then you could always downgrade to that, otherwise you if you have an Apple Developer account you can report a bug to Apple and they may fix it in a future update.
Hi, i really like your videos i have the same Mac 5.1 and i want to upgrade it, but i can buy this RX580 everywhere or it has to be mac compatible or something? because in some stores where i asked they told me that its not compatible
Hey mate, it runs on the Mac but it doesn't run the boot screen selector. So if you try to hold down alt to startup via another drive (eg. Windows Bootcamp), it won't show that part. There's a demonstration and tips in the full version of this video.
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It gives me a boot selection screen for third party GPU’s before the login screen and also allows you to boot the EFI bootcamp partition
(1 cavet though you need to disable nvram in sip but i can live with that)
You can try before you buy
Hey mate, the boot system is run by a different operating system than macOS and Apple has decided to only update the drivers of macOS and not the boot system. A custom GPU will give you problems with the boot manager screen, so you won't be able to hold down alt and select which operating system to boot into if you have multiple operating systems installed. But, you can still boot into recovery mode by holding down command + R. In the full version of this video I go through performance and Bootcamp.
@Vtudio Thanks for the reply! YEA that is what I am getting. I think I am going to get use install a "AMD Radeon HD7950 3GB Video Card for Mac Pro 2008-2012 Systems 4K Metal Support" to run under MAC OS 10.10.5 I have a few guys tell me that's the way to go on this...... DO YOU CONCUR? I am sick of the 1 gig card apple OEM card and want to add another monitor
Simply wonderful I got one of the overclocked light blue ones from Amazon, but had to wait for about 3 weeks for a cable to arrive. I hooked it up and found that I forgot to get the Display Port Mini female to Display Port converter to use with the card. It has two Display Port, two HDMI and one DVI. Only the Display Port converter was available on Amazon. I got everything there from the card, the power cable and converter cable. The converter cable came in a couple of days, much better than the power cable. Plugged in the converter, powered up and I was good to go. Thank you. Everything is quick, now.
I got the same graphic card days ago, installed it by follow this video. My mac pro now can run Mojave and everything fine. Thanks for the video, appreciate! Btw, two 6 pins into one 8 pins, do you think is it over power to the card? is it harmful?
Hi . I already bought the same graphics card, but it does not work, the fans do work but the card does not output the monitor, I read in forums that I have to have the latest firmware, I have Mac Pro 5.1 firmware MP51.0084 .B00. Can you tell me what is the firmware of your Mac pro? to compare with mine. Thank you
Hey mate, it doesn't completely block the port next to it, but the space is very limited. I managed to slot in a PCIe SSD card in that space and it ran fine, but if you can leave a space between the graphics card in general it's a good idea as GPUs can run hot. Here's a photo of what the space left looks like, when I had placed the SSD card currently in slot 4 into slot 2 there was around half a cm space between the GPU and the SSD.
Found a 2012 Mac Pro 6 core, 24gb ram, 1tb hhd for $100, in absolute immaculate condition! I’m thinking about upgrading to ssd and this graphics card. I’m needing a dual boot computer than can boot Yosemite and high Sierra/Mojave.......I use a lot of legacy apps that only work with Yosemite and older OS’s. With this graphic card work?
At the moment is have a 2014 iMac 5K that dual boots, I LOVE the 5k resolution, everything is so crisp...... i hookup up the Mac Pro with a DVI to com-port cable to a 4K screen and the picture is very pixelated and looks like I went back into the Stone Age! Will this graphics card fix that problem?
Vtudio yes i still use Yosemite because Yosemite was the last OS that supported iMovie 09, and iDVD. I run half of my business off of iDVD..... Apple deleted chapter markers from the new version of iMovie. I’ve tried different dvd software but none come close to iDVD. iMovie 09 is just easy to use. I have Final Cut Pro, I just prefer iMovie
Hello thank you very much. I had the doubt because this card is Sapphire Nitro + Radeon RX 580 and in the apple support it supports the SAPPHIRE Radeon PULSE RX 580 card, I have been reading about the difference between nitro and pulse and the difference is only the ventilation, nitro it refers to ventilation. thank you very much for the answer, I will buy this card to be able to update to mojave macos, greetings
Haven't tried it myself but the theory is that the card will still draw up to 150W from the 8 pin port and the Mac Pro will provide whatever the GPU asks from the 8 pin connection, but some people say that if you draw that much power it can wear out the motherboard.
How do you boot to bootcamp without bootscreen? I remember using a program called Bootchamp a while back but it stopped working and I wasn't sure if it's still working for anyone else or if there's an alternative new iteration of the program? Thanks
Ah yes, i read up on that method. However it's a pain. I did a little research to see if there was an alternative to Bootchamp and it seems that Bootchamp still works. The app stays on your app bar on top and you just click start windows and it will automatically shut down MacOS and start up Windows without having to do anything. I just ordered a Radeon Pulse RX 580 and I'm going to try this. I have an Nvidia 680 Mac Edition and wanted an upgrade that's recognized by High Sierra.
Apparently you have to disable SIP to use my Kore 2 controller.
How to do it was tricky, but simple with instructions:
1. Boot into recovery (Hold Command + R after turning the mac on)
2. From menu bar find Terminal
3. Type in terminal: csrutil disable
4. Bootchamp works now.
It's been confirmed to work with Sierra.
Hey mate, I give a demo in the full version of this video, just go into System Preferences > Startup Disk and select Windows, but it is a complete pain as the only way I know of to switch back is to reset the PRAM or install a 2nd Mac compatible graphics card.
I was able to install this card into my Mac. Of note....for me at least...Neither of the 2 fans are running while the Card is installed and computer is on. Currently It's driving 2 displays with no fans. Granted I'm not doing much other than surfing the net and occasionally watching youtube or a movie. Will the Fans kick on when needed??
Hey mate, yep no drivers required as High Sierra has them built in, though I've only tested the Sapphire brand myself and can't guarantee that all brands will work the same. I haven't tested Mojave myself but I've seen reports online saying that it works fine (with no boot screen of course).
Depending on your budget, it might be worth waiting a couple of months to see what AMD release as they've stated that their new 7nm GPUs are coming out this year, so anytime now, new cards as powerful if not more than the Vega 64 with the power draw of the RX580 will be released, so that could be an option for you, or it may at least drop the prices of the RX580s.
I found this graphic card for my Mac Pro 5.1 MID 2012
Is this graphic card OK for my system ?
My Sapphire RX 580 Special Edition looks very similar to yours. I found that in my Mac Pro 4,1 (flashed to 5,1) that the card (installed in slot 1) is so tall it makes slot 2 inaccessible. So in effect I now have only three usable PCI slots instead of four. I can live with it, but others might want to know about this.
I also kept the original NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 graphics card in slot 3, since sometimes I want access to the boot screen to choose a start-up volume. My monitor has a DVI connector, so I got a DVI switch-box from Amazon for £12 sterling. It has two inputs and one output. The two graphics cards are connected to the inputs, and the monitor to the output. All I have to do is press a button on the switch-box to change between the RX 580 and the GT 120. Very convenient, and cheap!
Thanks for all your Mac Pro videos. They've been a great help as I upgraded my machine over the last couple of months.
You can switch using System Preferences > Startup Disk on Mac, and from Windows if you have both graphics cards installed you can switch using Bootcamp Manager. Alternatively you can use Bootchamp from Mac which allows you to boot into Windows without setting it as the startup drive, that way you just reset Windows and it'll boot back into MacOS. Or from Windows, after resetting you can reset your PRAM and it'll boot back into MacOS. There's a demo in the longer edit of this video here: https://youtube.com/watch?v=RGCceOhv3f4
Hey mate, if you're a MacOS guy then not really as you want to boot into MacOS directly. It's only bad if you're considering dual booting back and forth to Windows, or if you're an early adopter and plan on updating your OS to the latest version ASAP, as usually the latest OS tends to have a few bugs that only get resolved after a few months of play.
Thank you for the informational video, good tutorial as well! I plan on doing this with my Mac Pro eventually. Quick question: What is SATA? And what is important about the booting screen? Is it necessary to have? And if you have both graphics card installed how does the system know to default to one? Or does it use both in tandem? Thank you for video once again!
Hey mate, the computer uses both but does all the main work on the one which is connected to the monitor. If an application is smart it can also use the other one but most apps don't and will just use the connected one. Booting screen is not necessary at all if you're just doing Mac stuff, if you plan on installing Windows and dual booting then it is essential. SATA is the connection type used for hard drives, in this case we used those SATA hard drive connectors for its power source rather than connection.
Let me first say I love your videos and because of the RX580 video I went out and got the exact model. I have one question about resolution. I run a 3 monitor setup 2 30" Dells at 2560x1600 and 2 24" in portrait mode at 1200x1920 resolution. I thought the 2 display ports could handle the 30" monitors and the 2 HDMI ports would handle the 24" monitors. I was mistaken as the display ports only give me 1920x1080 on both 30" monitors. How are you able to get max resolution out of your RX580 in order to run a 4K monitor via display port?
Man, these videos had me hyped, so I ended up buying a 5.1 Mac Pro. And it has been nothing but one huge disaster. Windows 10 was a pain to install, that it almost unusable since the OS switching function is nearly removed due to the APFS forced formatting. Having to reset the PRAM every time you want to boot into OS X is ridicules.
I had a RX480, and while it works in Mac OS, I won't show ANYTHING when booting in Windows. And you can't install AMD drivers without the card installed. And with my flashed GTX680, I can't have both cards in at the same time without them crashing shortly after booting Windows. Maybe it is a different story with the RX580?
I only have an option of using the Mac Pro solely on OS X with the RX480 or a Windows/Mac with a GTX680.
Overall, the Mac Pro is severely handicapped by Apple software changes. I had high hopes for a dual system that could game, but now I feel like an idiot for buying the Mac Pro.
Here is the link to the guide. Hope you might be able to use a few tips, so you can avoid using a PRAM reset as a boot method. https://www.reddit.com/r/macpro/comments/90rye3/complete_guide_mac_os_10136_high_sierra_with/
I did it! 40+ hours of my vacation, but I got it running with a switchable Bootcamp!
- No need for PRAM reset, or anything like that. I can use Bootcamp software or Bootchamp to choose my operating system.
- It works great.
- Updating High Sierra from 10.13.5 to 10.13.6 worked fine.
- Mac SSD is formatted af HFS+ and not APFS. Might cause problems in the future.
- Windows 7 instead of 10.
- A hassle to setup correctly.
I'll make a guideline in Reddit I think. Somebody could gain from my frustation, sweat and tears.
I actually got it to work, by putting my SSD into my PC and installing the drivers from there. Then it worked when I put it back. But unfortunately, I could not boot back and forth between Windows or Mac with either Bootchamp/Startup Disk/Bootcamp without having to use my GTX680 for seing the bootscreen.
25 hours of troubleshooting, yay
Hey mate, that sucks, for me with the RX580 just worked out of the box with Windows update, the whole nonsense with dual booting is annoying but I've had both cards in there with no crashes. Which brand RX480 do you have?
You can also try an app called BootChamp, which allows you to temporarily switch to Windows without changing the boot drive. So next time you reset from Windows (including for software updates), it'll boot back always into Mac. It's annoying if you don't mean it, but works out better overall to avoid that reset PRAM trick.
Worst case, you can always sell it on, the markets still good for Mac Pros right now as the 2019's aren' out and all the new tech coming out of Apple at the moment is overpriced and very controversial.
It works in both cases, with both plugged in or just the RX 580 on its own - you just don't get the boot screen with the RX 580 on its own. I have a demo in the full version of this video: https://youtu.be/RGCceOhv3f4
Another thing to check - does the Sapphire logo light come on and the fan spin?
Yes, I have tried connecting my monitor with the HDMI input and the DVI input. I have not tried to connect this card to another computer for all I have is just one. Do I need to have both 5770 and the RX 580 connected at the same time? Or can I just have the RX 580?
Hey! I just bought myself one of these. I have he same computer. My monitor doesn’t want to display anything though. I followed what you did and I get nothing when I turn it on. Did you install any driver before you added the Rx 580?
@Kalle Ankaa Which RX 580 are you referring to? The Sapphire version has both an 8-pin and 6-pin, but only requires the 8-pin to be connected. The 6-pin is for additional power if you plan on overclocking the unit.
Good afternoon. Are there any problems with graphics card fans? At the time of booting the system ventilatory spinning but when uploaded they all stopped, even when the temperature is not spinning. my Mac pro 4.1 system is flashed to 5.1 OS HS 10.13.5 video card sapphire nitro+ RX 580.
У меня тоже пропеллеры вертятся лишь при запуске Мака. А позже вообщем не вертятся! И нереально по IStat поглядеть температуру видеоплаты! Но вроде работает все. У меня MSI rx580 8gb. Вы отыскали решение?
thanks, these are great and very helpful videos. how do you use your macbook pro and mac pro with your ultrawide monitor? i'm thinking of a similar setup but am not sure the best way, since i would want to use the ultrawide at times for the macbook and at times for the mac pro.
Hey mate, you can connect both computers to the monitor and switch between the HDMI inputs. You can also use an app like Share Mouse to use the keyboard and trackpad of the MacBook to drive the Mac Pro - but it's not always 100% reliable.
You are sooo lucky, I bought an oem 580 & it has a 6 pin on it, not an 8 pin, so it is running in degraded mode (480) :( I cant seem to find dual mini 6 pin to 6 pin. Try running some bench marks like cinebench 15 & you will be amazed compared to your old one!!!! Thanks again for the video!!!
Oh, I forgot, I plugged mine into my friends cordsair computer & it does recognize it as a 580. His power supply was feeding my card 150 watts. & I havent checked to see how much power it is drawing on my CMP.... there, I think that answers everything! :)
Howdy Vtudio, let me try to answer all your questions, I have been using it for over 2 months now, & no random crashes, it is ROCK solid, in fact it hasnt crashed once! My cinebench 15 score is 1280 which is great, so I dont think it is really running that much slower... my original thought process for getting the 580 was that it will encode vr videos, the 480 will not. The other thought, at the time i purchased mine, the 580 was only $40 more than the 480, & the 480 had 4 gigs, & the 580 has 8 gigs of v-ram. I am still looking for adaptors. Mine is in a 2010 MP 5,1 & is even quieter than the sapphire card. I mainly use my computer with FCPX, Aperture & Lightroom. Thanks for the ❤️, If I find anything else that might help out, I will post here. Have a great day!
Hey mate, thanks for the tip that the OEM RX 580 still works with one 6-pin plug, I just had a look and couldn't find any adapters either. Do you suffer from any random crashes or anything like that or is it just running slower? Also, have you checked to see how much power it's drawing?
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